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Color chart for Flight Rising by Randomonium09 Color chart for Flight Rising by Randomonium09
EDIT: For those wondering, I'm TheUnderdog09 on FR. Feel free to PM me or post in this chart's thread if you notice any issues or anything with the chart. :) EDIT: I am not really active on FR anymore. It'd be easier to get in touch with me through this here DA account or my Tumblr.

Updated 12/21/2014: Color placements for Nocturne breed added! I've also revamped the layout of the chart, partly to make it look a little more orderly, and partly to make it more easily extensible for me. Everything still works the same way, it's just been flipped 90 degrees.

Updated 1/18/2014: Took me a week longer than I'd have liked, but the chart is now updated with color placements for the Coatl breed!

Edit 1/9/2014: I do intend to update the chart with colors for the Coatl breed. I just don't have time right now. Bear with me?

Edit 9/6/2013: Confirmed and updated: Skydancers do in fact use the secondary base colors.

Edit 9/5/2013: Thanks much to Uturuncu on FR, who provided links to Skydancers with ice and black secondary genes! I might not have time to update the chart tonight, (that calculus homework needs doing,) but it'll be updated by tomorrow at the latest.

Updated 8/27/2013: Skydancer color placements added! HELP REQUESTED: If you have the link to a Skydancer with either an Ice Basic or Black Basic secondary gene, let me know so I can get that squared away.

Flight Rising is a browser-based pet/breeding game with dragons. That's about it. Most (I think all, actually) of the character art was done by neondragon, which is the only reason I even know the site exists; that woman and her tutorial books are basically responsible for kickstarting any artistic talent I may have. They're also the reason I draw dragons and damn near nothing else.

Anyway, I digress. This is just a pet project that I've been working on the last few days, a compilation of all the colors used in all the genes on the site along with a guide to where they're placed on the various dragon breeds. (I use the word "gene" in the loosest possible sense, as does Flight Rising; each dragon has three genes, each with a set of colors associated, that determines what colors go on the dragon and where. If you're really curious, you can go read about how dragon breeding works on the site. Some day I intend to make a fantasy breeding sim based on actual genetic principles, but I digress again.) Basically, this is the result of my sitting for three days poking at random people's dragons with the eyedropper tool. It will make absolutely no sense to anyone who isn't already familiar with Flight Rising's systems, which I'm sure includes more or less every single one of my watchers. It's only here because I needed it to be somewhere on the internet in order to post it to the Flight Rising forums. So there.
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cstoneburner Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
Very, very cool. I'm assuming that since you did it by eyedropper you don't have the numeric equivalents easily accessible?

Thanks!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Terribly sorry for the horrifically late reply.

I doubt I have the exact values used on FR, simply because RGB/hex values are so much more precise than the eyedropper tool, but I could (possibly, if I can make the time,) find out the values of the colors I put on the chart and throw together a spreadsheet, if you're still interested.
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SFFCorgi Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
Great work, great reference and thank you!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you, thank you, and you're welcome! :)
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
oh and through minor observation, I found that for some of the lighter color, the claws uses accent 3
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When I was originally making the chart, I noticed weird claw coloration for several different breeds. Many gene colors use identical claw colors that don't show up in the rest of their color palette, and the number of different claw colors I saw seemed fairly limited. My hypothesis (which I never got around to testing, by the way,) is that there's a separate, relatively small "claw color" palette of maybe 2 to 5 different colors, and each gene color uses only one of them.

I didn't look very hard into that part of the system or include it in the chart because a) the claws are so miniscule that their color usually doesn't make a ton of difference and b) by the time I'd noticed this pattern I was already pretty far along with the rest of the chart and was a little too lazy to go back through all of those dragons to assemble a claw color palette.
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
true to that
thought they do really have some strange minor coloration here and there...
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Incidentally, I did notice what you were talking about just now while I was seeing if Skydancers use the secondary bases; it looks like Skydancers' claw colors might line up nicely with the normal gene palettes, unlike any of the other breeds'. I might look into that sometime and see if it doesn't hold true for other primary gene colors, but that probably won't be until FR gets its search functionality back up.
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Uturuncu on FR has send you some links :)

they've send another one with black secondary as well, but has circuit gene, let me find you a black wing basic one 
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Scratch the "might," I can definitely work around the circuit gene. No need for a Skydancer without a tertiary gene, but thank you for looking. :)
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
awesome!!
hehe I even asked in skype chat, irc chat, and post a small thread on the forum hoping for someone to show their sexy black winged skydancer
but I guess everyone's skydancer are either tri-gened or some gened lol
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep, I saw the post in the FR thread. I might be able to work around the circuit gene, but a backup without a tertiary would be nice. Thanks. :)

I probably won't have time to update the chart tonight due to homework, but I'll definitely get to it tomorrow.
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
hey, after a few bit of preview testing and actual color confirmed, Skydancer's color is as following
Primary Gene
Base color - Base
Belly - Accent 1
Head whisk & horn - Accent 2
Secondary Gene
Bat Wings, mane - Base
Feathers and Feathered Wings - Modified base

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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome, thanks. I'll try to make time to update the chart later tonight. :)
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freevortex Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"Some day I intend to make a fantasy breeding sim based on actual genetic principles" YES please. As a genetics major, the "genetics" on most sims makes me kind of cringe inside xD
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:lol: No kidding, right? Although I understand why they do it that way. It's a hell of a lot easier to program and create art for a simpler system than it would be to do the same with a closer approximation of actual genetics. Plus there's probably useability concerns; knowledge of genetics is fairly specialized and most people don't have a lot of it, so a simpler system is easier to learn about.

When and if I ever get around to making this sim, I'm not sure how accurate an approximation it'll be. Given that a) I only have a high school understanding of genetics and that b) the more accurate it is, the longer it'll take to program, the more art I'll need to do, and the more buggy it'll most likely be, (plus the fact that I'm hyper-ambitious and also have these grand plans of trying to simulate the ecology, keeping track and simulating the behavior of entire populations of potentially hundreds of individuals, all without taking up gigabytes of RAM or making someone's processor melt,) the end result will most likely still be a dumbed-down version of actual genetics, but it'll be a lot closer than what most sims out there do.
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SociopathGOD Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, this is a wonderful thing lol. I was talking with my flight about my confusion to see a spring mirror with an orange belly!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, thank you. Glad it could be useful. :)
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
this is a very wonderfully made chart
thank you so much for making this!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome, and thank you! :)
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somnomania Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013  Student Artisan Crafter
This is fantastic! I'd love to see a detailed thing like this for some of the genes, also. I'm always surprised at what happens to colors with, for example, Eyespot and Seraph. I try them on dragons with darker or blander colors and suddenly there are these bright shades involved.
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :)

I don't think something like that would be too difficult, and I thought about extending the chart to include non-basic and tertiary genes a while back. There aren't any freely available, official PSDs of any of the non-basic genes, so it would be more difficult to verify the colors, (I relied on the skin PSDs to create this chart, filling in the colors and comparing to the site-generated images to make sure I had them right, or at least close,) but it's definitely doable. My guess is that the non-basic genes use the exact same colors that are already on the chart, without adding any. With that in mind, it probably wouldn't be too hard to piece them together, and it'd largely be a matter of figuring out where each of the different accents go on each gene. Problem is, I've kinda moved on to other projects and don't really feel like making the time or effort necessary to extend this chart. I've actually, in the last couple weeks, become a little bored of FR in general.

But, I'm certainly not going to stop you or anyone else who wants to work with and extend the chart themselves. Have at it. ;)
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Carpe-argillum Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
Wow, this is fantastic! :D
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :)
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jWobblegong Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is amazing! THANK YOU!

A note about male Sky Mirrors: I believe that's a known bug, someone pointed out the weird ear colors on one of their mirrors when it grew up and one of the art-admins popped in to say "oops". I think they want to fix it.
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome! :)

And thanks for letting me know. I'll keep an eye on it and change the chart if they change the colors. Do you have a link to that thread or know how long ago it was?
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jWobblegong Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Took someone else with better search skills than me but Houston we have a source!

Bug Report Forums > Color/Gene Inconsistencies [link]
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I thought it might've been just a mistake; that color is awfully close to Splash's second accent, just above Sky's in the chart. Seeing a Splash and a Sky mirror side-by-side just kinda confirms it. Thanks. :)
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Lena-Lucia-dragon Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for your work!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome! :)
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painesgrey Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for doing this!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem. :)
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Sprogog Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is awesome. Thank you so much. :D
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome, and thank you! :)
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Sparr0wlicious Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, this is very useful, thank you <3
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome. :)
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weaselbeast Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
Thank you for this, I had been wondering about this very topic.
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem. :)
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SD-DreamCrystal Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I will be using this as needed, nice to see what curiousness and boredom can do XD
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed. :) Glad you like it!
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Empyrisan Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013   Digital Artist
Wow, excellent reference for Flight Rising players! Definitely will save and look back at this!
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! I hope it'll be useful. :)
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